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		<title>Amnamyst at 18:53, 24 April 2024</title>
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		<title>Amnamyst: Created page with &quot;&#039;&#039;Under Construction&#039;&#039;  ==Freesurfer - BEM creation==  *BOTH FreeSurfer recon-all -autorecon1 and mne.make_watershed_bem independently call mri_watershed to produce a skull-stripped image from which the inner and outer skull surfaces are created. *The use of -gcaatlas ensures that the bem will pick up the cerebellum, and doesn&#039;t clip out other portions of the brain. *In some cases, -gcaatlas worsens a bem that was already bad but not catastrophic. (i.e. it included some...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Under Construction&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  ==Freesurfer - BEM creation==  *BOTH FreeSurfer recon-all -autorecon1 and mne.make_watershed_bem independently call mri_watershed to produce a skull-stripped image from which the inner and outer skull surfaces are created. *The use of -gcaatlas ensures that the bem will pick up the cerebellum, and doesn&amp;#039;t clip out other portions of the brain. *In some cases, -gcaatlas worsens a bem that was already bad but not catastrophic. (i.e. it included some...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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==Freesurfer - BEM creation==&lt;br /&gt;
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*BOTH FreeSurfer recon-all -autorecon1 and mne.make_watershed_bem independently call mri_watershed to produce a skull-stripped image from which the inner and outer skull surfaces are created.&lt;br /&gt;
*The use of -gcaatlas ensures that the bem will pick up the cerebellum, and doesn&amp;#039;t clip out other portions of the brain.&lt;br /&gt;
*In some cases, -gcaatlas worsens a bem that was already bad but not catastrophic. (i.e. it included some curlicues but didn&amp;#039;t crop out any of the brain). This is usually the result of a bad skullstrip, and can be fixed by lowering the default preflood height from 30 to 15, 10, or even 5.&lt;br /&gt;
*In very rare cases, -gcaatlas results in a worse skullstrip. (*Observed in subject with Dx.)&lt;br /&gt;
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 &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Recommended course of action&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is to use -gcaatlas, but check all bems and change preflood height as necessary.&lt;br /&gt;
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The use of -gcaatlas does actually improve matters for many subjects, eliminating cropping off of brain structures. Occasionally, using -gcaatlas results in failure, this again is usually a sign that the bem was already weird even without -gcaatlas&lt;br /&gt;
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 &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;For ENIGMA, recommended course of action:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &lt;br /&gt;
 * Keep -gcaatlas implementation&lt;br /&gt;
 * Manually run several participants with bem failures and adjust preflood height on mri_watershed/make_watershed_bem&lt;br /&gt;
 * Inspect output errors for any remaining &amp;quot;no vertices&amp;quot; errors that are potentially due to a bad skullstrip&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Amnamyst</name></author>
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